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		<title>By: Denny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Denny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 19:35:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guess what PQ...you are famous!  I&#039;m guessing there&#039;s thousands of people that read your blog now.  I wonder what the comment:number-of-readers ratio is?  I&#039;m in Tasmania, and I have a group of friends that read your blog (we love it!).  When your book comes out, you&#039;ll be even more famous.  But I won&#039;t eat cockroaches for you...

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guess what PQ&#8230;you are famous!  I&#8217;m guessing there&#8217;s thousands of people that read your blog now.  I wonder what the comment:number-of-readers ratio is?  I&#8217;m in Tasmania, and I have a group of friends that read your blog (we love it!).  When your book comes out, you&#8217;ll be even more famous.  But I won&#8217;t eat cockroaches for you&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: jae</title>
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		<dc:creator>jae</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 00:41:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, you know what??  Are you tryin to make me hate you??  Even though I really couldn&#039;t but I&#039;ve checked here for an update for days now and none.  Are you out livin&#039; life with your fab new body???  Well, I guess I&#039;ll check back later just incase you are indeed ready to come back and settle down and post something!  Hrmph!  :)  ~j

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, you know what??  Are you tryin to make me hate you??  Even though I really couldn&#8217;t but I&#8217;ve checked here for an update for days now and none.  Are you out livin&#8217; life with your fab new body???  Well, I guess I&#8217;ll check back later just incase you are indeed ready to come back and settle down and post something!  Hrmph!  :)  ~j</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Aug 2007 10:53:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What happened the links at the side to other blogs? Will they be back? I got lazy...and would always start at yours and start jumping from there! wa wa wa. (just kidding.. I can track most of them down). thanks for everything you do for us.

&lt;b&gt;Sarah - I just made a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.pastaqueen.com/halfofme/blogroll.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Blogroll&lt;/a&gt; page with a note at the bottom that explains why I&#039;ve made the change. I was just going to get rid of the blogroll completely, but it&#039;s probably a good idea to keep the list of links around if other people do the same thing you do. - PQ&lt;/b&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What happened the links at the side to other blogs? Will they be back? I got lazy&#8230;and would always start at yours and start jumping from there! wa wa wa. (just kidding.. I can track most of them down). thanks for everything you do for us.</p>
<p><b>Sarah &#8211; I just made a <a href="http://www.pastaqueen.com/halfofme/blogroll.php" rel="nofollow">Blogroll</a> page with a note at the bottom that explains why I&#8217;ve made the change. I was just going to get rid of the blogroll completely, but it&#8217;s probably a good idea to keep the list of links around if other people do the same thing you do. &#8211; PQ</b></p>
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		<title>By: Debbie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Debbie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2007 17:25:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve known a lot of people who don&#039;t want to admit how they lost weight. Especially in the beginning, a lot of people don&#039;t want to admit to even being on a diet because they may not get to goal. Maybe Star was afraid she wouldn&#039;t be able to keep it off and didn&#039;t want people judging her for how she lost the weight in the first place.

I really don&#039;t know. I just believe that she&#039;s entitled to her privacy about weight loss just like the rest of us.

It&#039;s a topic a lot of people feel vulnerable about. I think that&#039;s why a lot of people try not to talk about it too much. It&#039;s so easy to be criticized about weight loss no matter what you do.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve known a lot of people who don&#8217;t want to admit how they lost weight. Especially in the beginning, a lot of people don&#8217;t want to admit to even being on a diet because they may not get to goal. Maybe Star was afraid she wouldn&#8217;t be able to keep it off and didn&#8217;t want people judging her for how she lost the weight in the first place.</p>
<p>I really don&#8217;t know. I just believe that she&#8217;s entitled to her privacy about weight loss just like the rest of us.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a topic a lot of people feel vulnerable about. I think that&#8217;s why a lot of people try not to talk about it too much. It&#8217;s so easy to be criticized about weight loss no matter what you do.</p>
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		<title>By: Katie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Katie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2007 16:25:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Huh. I&#039;m kinda stumped. As an obese person who has lost about 30 lbs with diet and exercise since this past New Year&#039;s,(while still remaining obese, mind you, just less so) I find it really difficult not to judge WLS as a quick &amp; easy option. That said, I&#039;ve been plateauing for months now, and even though I&#039;m running, I&#039;m more fit, have muscles I never knew about, and feel great, I REALLY WISH there were an easier way to get this thing going again, and would consider it if I were a bit larger and less successful with the diet, etc.

PQ, I admire your tolerance because I can&#039;t stand Starr Jones (fat or thin -- she&#039;s just grating) and I&#039;m also aware that WLS is the best option for some people. Still... it just bugs me when I see someone not even try any other means to that end. I don&#039;t know what SJ did or did not do, and I agree that she has as much right to privacy as anybody else. I DO know a former colleague (I switched jobs about two months ago) who was preparing to undergo surgery when I left the old job. As you&#039;d expect, she was a big girl -- I&#039;d guess around 300 lbs or so -- and she was pretty open about what she&#039;d have to do - a month of liquid diet before, then after, etc. The thing that bugged me about it was that I never once heard her mention exercise, or saw her eat anything that was considered remotely healthy -- it was all McDonald&#039;s and fried chinese food and chocolate. And while all of that is her decision, it makes me kind of sad that she just underwent invasive surgery that could potentially kill her, rather than make an effort to change in other ways.

So, I recently checked in with another former colleague, who reported that our friend has had the surgery, and &quot;has the appetite of a bird&quot;. But guess what filled her up? &quot;She ate two chicken mcnuggets and three french fries and was full, like thanksgiving full&quot;. I can&#039;t help it, but I feel like the availability of this procedure puts some people in a really dangerous position, where they think it&#039;s a quick fix and that they can be the same old way, just eating a little less. I&#039;m seriously concerned for my friend, because of the possibility that she won&#039;t get the right nutrients and will eventually get seriously ill, if a lot thinner. And that&#039;s why I&#039;m not down with people like SJ walking around in their crop tops and looking all skinny, because everyone might start thinking that&#039;s the best way for them.

I know that it&#039;s judgmental as hell and that the existence of the procedure really is a lifesaving miracle for a lot of people, but I can&#039;t help feeling it.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Huh. I&#8217;m kinda stumped. As an obese person who has lost about 30 lbs with diet and exercise since this past New Year&#8217;s,(while still remaining obese, mind you, just less so) I find it really difficult not to judge WLS as a quick &#038; easy option. That said, I&#8217;ve been plateauing for months now, and even though I&#8217;m running, I&#8217;m more fit, have muscles I never knew about, and feel great, I REALLY WISH there were an easier way to get this thing going again, and would consider it if I were a bit larger and less successful with the diet, etc.</p>
<p>PQ, I admire your tolerance because I can&#8217;t stand Starr Jones (fat or thin &#8212; she&#8217;s just grating) and I&#8217;m also aware that WLS is the best option for some people. Still&#8230; it just bugs me when I see someone not even try any other means to that end. I don&#8217;t know what SJ did or did not do, and I agree that she has as much right to privacy as anybody else. I DO know a former colleague (I switched jobs about two months ago) who was preparing to undergo surgery when I left the old job. As you&#8217;d expect, she was a big girl &#8212; I&#8217;d guess around 300 lbs or so &#8212; and she was pretty open about what she&#8217;d have to do &#8211; a month of liquid diet before, then after, etc. The thing that bugged me about it was that I never once heard her mention exercise, or saw her eat anything that was considered remotely healthy &#8212; it was all McDonald&#8217;s and fried chinese food and chocolate. And while all of that is her decision, it makes me kind of sad that she just underwent invasive surgery that could potentially kill her, rather than make an effort to change in other ways.</p>
<p>So, I recently checked in with another former colleague, who reported that our friend has had the surgery, and &#8220;has the appetite of a bird&#8221;. But guess what filled her up? &#8220;She ate two chicken mcnuggets and three french fries and was full, like thanksgiving full&#8221;. I can&#8217;t help it, but I feel like the availability of this procedure puts some people in a really dangerous position, where they think it&#8217;s a quick fix and that they can be the same old way, just eating a little less. I&#8217;m seriously concerned for my friend, because of the possibility that she won&#8217;t get the right nutrients and will eventually get seriously ill, if a lot thinner. And that&#8217;s why I&#8217;m not down with people like SJ walking around in their crop tops and looking all skinny, because everyone might start thinking that&#8217;s the best way for them.</p>
<p>I know that it&#8217;s judgmental as hell and that the existence of the procedure really is a lifesaving miracle for a lot of people, but I can&#8217;t help feeling it.</p>
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		<title>By: the veggie paparazzo</title>
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		<dc:creator>the veggie paparazzo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2007 14:51:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have only heard snippets of her Glamour article, but I think she came across as more real in that than she has in anything else I&#039;ve ever heard about her.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have only heard snippets of her Glamour article, but I think she came across as more real in that than she has in anything else I&#8217;ve ever heard about her.</p>
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		<title>By: sarah</title>
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		<dc:creator>sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 19:39:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t judge people for what they have done to lose weight but it always makes me feel sad for them because you CAN lose the weight if you want to. Yet one of my closest friends is over 400 pounds and I know that they only way she is going to lose any weight is via surgery. It&#039;s very hard for some and easier for others (to give up the food).

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t judge people for what they have done to lose weight but it always makes me feel sad for them because you CAN lose the weight if you want to. Yet one of my closest friends is over 400 pounds and I know that they only way she is going to lose any weight is via surgery. It&#8217;s very hard for some and easier for others (to give up the food).</p>
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		<title>By: Laura</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 15:27:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very gracious post, PQ.

I wanted to tell you how ADORABLE you look in the BlogHer pictures I&#039;ve seen on other&#039;s websites.  You are so cute!  Love the look without your glasses.  And congrats on  another 3 pounds down in July.  That&#039;s awesome.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very gracious post, PQ.</p>
<p>I wanted to tell you how ADORABLE you look in the BlogHer pictures I&#8217;ve seen on other&#8217;s websites.  You are so cute!  Love the look without your glasses.  And congrats on  another 3 pounds down in July.  That&#8217;s awesome.</p>
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		<title>By: JJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>JJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 13:31:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Star Jones made me, personally, angry. It wasn&#039;t about how or if she lost the weight... it was how easy she made it look. By getting weight loss surgery, a viable option, she lost a ton of weight reasonably fast. She then told the world (or implied to the world) that she did it with diet and exercise and pretty much never broke a sweat. She was so out about the quick weight loss, but would never admit that she did take the easier route. She showed up to every public event she could with cropped tops and skinny jeans... smiling and condemning her old fat self without ever once admitting she didn&#039;t owe it all to herself. That not only throws a big f* you to the fat community, but it also tells the rest of the world that if we just stopped eating so damn much we&#039;d be skinny quick too. We&#039;re all just fat gluttons who don&#039;t want to get on a treadmill once a week.

That being said, I loooove your blog. Keep up the good work. Wanna link?

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Star Jones made me, personally, angry. It wasn&#8217;t about how or if she lost the weight&#8230; it was how easy she made it look. By getting weight loss surgery, a viable option, she lost a ton of weight reasonably fast. She then told the world (or implied to the world) that she did it with diet and exercise and pretty much never broke a sweat. She was so out about the quick weight loss, but would never admit that she did take the easier route. She showed up to every public event she could with cropped tops and skinny jeans&#8230; smiling and condemning her old fat self without ever once admitting she didn&#8217;t owe it all to herself. That not only throws a big f* you to the fat community, but it also tells the rest of the world that if we just stopped eating so damn much we&#8217;d be skinny quick too. We&#8217;re all just fat gluttons who don&#8217;t want to get on a treadmill once a week.</p>
<p>That being said, I loooove your blog. Keep up the good work. Wanna link?</p>
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		<title>By: Mae</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mae</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 12:03:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OMG - she really does look like a bobble head doll. I hadn&#039;t heard that before, and it&#039;s an awful thing to say... but it&#039;s sorta true.

I find her endlessly annoying. I really do... everyone *knew* she had wls - no one loses weight that fast without some sort of surgery and/or liquid diet, and we all saw what happened with Oprah when she did the liquid diet and got super skinny... it doesn&#039;t last this long.

I would love to give SJR the benefit of the doubt... but part of me, call it the highly cynical part, believes she enjoyed all the &quot;how&#039;d she do it?&quot; press and publicity... because let&#039;s face it, you called it right - the woman is a media whore, and by the time she had WLS, Carnie Wilson and Al Roker had made it old news. She&#039;d not have gotten nearly the level of attention if she&#039;d have just said what she did... and yet, she refused and I believe on several occasions, even denied having surgery.

Now, in her real life, she might be a very pleasant, lovely woman... but she&#039;s chosen her path, as far as her fame goes, and I think when you choose to be loud and in-your-face, you have to expect this. I find celebs who say, oh, I thought I could keep this private so insincere. There are celebrities who live very private lives... I mean, Nicole Kidman has been through hell with Tom Cruise suddenly leaving her, and her new man in rehab four months after the wedding, and yet... in general, despite her mega fame, she keeps a very low profile (unlike her ex). Now, maybe in Australia, she&#039;s more like some other celebs here... but she&#039;s not the only example. When was the last time you saw Marcia Gay Harden in the tabloids?

Celebrities make choices... often not the best ones. And some are certainly more targeted by others, and I do feel a certain sense of sadness for what they give up, what they sacrifice. I especially feel for their children... but, you can&#039;t run around with a big mouth about everything and anyone and then expect the world to be satisfied when you say &quot;no comment&quot; on something that the media is as obsessed with as weight, either. It&#039;s not realistic... and Star Jones is a lot of things, but stupid is not one of them. Which is why I can&#039;t help but believe this is a publicity stunt, and has been all along. The book is probably next.

&lt;b&gt;I think the timing is DEFINITELY on purpose. She&#039;s got a new show coming out soon and this story brings her name into the news cycle again. I agree with you that she probably had self-centered reasons for keeping the secret and getting the praise, but I believe she felt vulnerable too. It was probably a mix of the two. - PQ&lt;/b&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OMG &#8211; she really does look like a bobble head doll. I hadn&#8217;t heard that before, and it&#8217;s an awful thing to say&#8230; but it&#8217;s sorta true.</p>
<p>I find her endlessly annoying. I really do&#8230; everyone *knew* she had wls &#8211; no one loses weight that fast without some sort of surgery and/or liquid diet, and we all saw what happened with Oprah when she did the liquid diet and got super skinny&#8230; it doesn&#8217;t last this long.</p>
<p>I would love to give SJR the benefit of the doubt&#8230; but part of me, call it the highly cynical part, believes she enjoyed all the &#8220;how&#8217;d she do it?&#8221; press and publicity&#8230; because let&#8217;s face it, you called it right &#8211; the woman is a media whore, and by the time she had WLS, Carnie Wilson and Al Roker had made it old news. She&#8217;d not have gotten nearly the level of attention if she&#8217;d have just said what she did&#8230; and yet, she refused and I believe on several occasions, even denied having surgery.</p>
<p>Now, in her real life, she might be a very pleasant, lovely woman&#8230; but she&#8217;s chosen her path, as far as her fame goes, and I think when you choose to be loud and in-your-face, you have to expect this. I find celebs who say, oh, I thought I could keep this private so insincere. There are celebrities who live very private lives&#8230; I mean, Nicole Kidman has been through hell with Tom Cruise suddenly leaving her, and her new man in rehab four months after the wedding, and yet&#8230; in general, despite her mega fame, she keeps a very low profile (unlike her ex). Now, maybe in Australia, she&#8217;s more like some other celebs here&#8230; but she&#8217;s not the only example. When was the last time you saw Marcia Gay Harden in the tabloids?</p>
<p>Celebrities make choices&#8230; often not the best ones. And some are certainly more targeted by others, and I do feel a certain sense of sadness for what they give up, what they sacrifice. I especially feel for their children&#8230; but, you can&#8217;t run around with a big mouth about everything and anyone and then expect the world to be satisfied when you say &#8220;no comment&#8221; on something that the media is as obsessed with as weight, either. It&#8217;s not realistic&#8230; and Star Jones is a lot of things, but stupid is not one of them. Which is why I can&#8217;t help but believe this is a publicity stunt, and has been all along. The book is probably next.</p>
<p><b>I think the timing is DEFINITELY on purpose. She&#8217;s got a new show coming out soon and this story brings her name into the news cycle again. I agree with you that she probably had self-centered reasons for keeping the secret and getting the praise, but I believe she felt vulnerable too. It was probably a mix of the two. &#8211; PQ</b></p>
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