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		<title>By: Dana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 02:34:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is not something that has kept me fat, but I dread losing this weight because there&#039;s a guy in my life who I&#039;m pretty sure will ramp up his flirtation of me if I start looking better.  Unfortunately, I live with him.  Even more unfortunately, he&#039;s my little girl&#039;s dad.  I&#039;ve already sworn off wearing perfume or makeup while around him because he&#039;s already reacted to those even though I never said anything about doing those things for him.

I&#039;m not sure whether it sounds worse than it is or is just as bad as it sounds.  I do know it&#039;s not a good enough reason to put off taking charge of my health.  And hey, as I get thinner I&#039;ll be able to do more things for myself, like put together a work wardrobe I can actually afford (since they have barely any plus-sized clothes at Goodwill) and get a job and, y&#039;know, get the hell away from him.  He isn&#039;t keeping me here with physical force, mind you, but that doesn&#039;t mean I don&#039;t want some distance.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is not something that has kept me fat, but I dread losing this weight because there&#8217;s a guy in my life who I&#8217;m pretty sure will ramp up his flirtation of me if I start looking better.  Unfortunately, I live with him.  Even more unfortunately, he&#8217;s my little girl&#8217;s dad.  I&#8217;ve already sworn off wearing perfume or makeup while around him because he&#8217;s already reacted to those even though I never said anything about doing those things for him.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure whether it sounds worse than it is or is just as bad as it sounds.  I do know it&#8217;s not a good enough reason to put off taking charge of my health.  And hey, as I get thinner I&#8217;ll be able to do more things for myself, like put together a work wardrobe I can actually afford (since they have barely any plus-sized clothes at Goodwill) and get a job and, y&#8217;know, get the hell away from him.  He isn&#8217;t keeping me here with physical force, mind you, but that doesn&#8217;t mean I don&#8217;t want some distance.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jan 2007 21:55:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a fat man, I have a hard time accepting the main tenant of the book. Ironically, I may be able to  relate to some of the women in the book better than you -- I have certainly experienced the diet-binge cycle you mentioned.  I agree with your theory that weight is more related to your environment and the foods that you eat. I&#039;m in the process of changing both, and so far so good.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a fat man, I have a hard time accepting the main tenant of the book. Ironically, I may be able to  relate to some of the women in the book better than you &#8212; I have certainly experienced the diet-binge cycle you mentioned.  I agree with your theory that weight is more related to your environment and the foods that you eat. I&#8217;m in the process of changing both, and so far so good.</p>
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		<title>By: PastaQueen</title>
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		<dc:creator>PastaQueen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 00:29:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marla, the passage I was referring to was this:

&quot;The few well-known examples we have of powerful women have either been equated with destruction, like Helen of Troy or Cleopatra, or they have been coupled with images of emasculated men, like maggie of &lt;i&gt;Maggie and Jiggs&lt;/i&gt;.&quot;

Growing up with TV shows like Buffy and Xena as well as real women like Oprah, I&#039;d say that&#039;s not entirely true anymore. Okay, Xena left a lot of destruction in her wake, but it was her own doing and she tried to redeem herself. I still agree with what you said though, that our bodies and beauty still affect how we&#039;re treated in the workplace and in the world.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marla, the passage I was referring to was this:</p>
<p>&#8220;The few well-known examples we have of powerful women have either been equated with destruction, like Helen of Troy or Cleopatra, or they have been coupled with images of emasculated men, like maggie of <i>Maggie and Jiggs</i>.&#8221;</p>
<p>Growing up with TV shows like Buffy and Xena as well as real women like Oprah, I&#8217;d say that&#8217;s not entirely true anymore. Okay, Xena left a lot of destruction in her wake, but it was her own doing and she tried to redeem herself. I still agree with what you said though, that our bodies and beauty still affect how we&#8217;re treated in the workplace and in the world.</p>
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		<title>By: Marla</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jan 2007 16:03:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This was really interesting, reading your opinions on this book - I haven&#039;t read it since it first came out, and I should probably revisit it. I would strongly recommend Gloria Steinem&#039;s 1980 essay &quot;The Politics of Food.&quot; The connection between food, power and powerlessness, status, and women&#039;s bodies is brilliantly described.

Also interested in your Buffy analysis - from my perspective (46 y/o) I see very little difference, or I should say little progress, from the 1970s. Despite some positive images, I&#039;d say that women are even more constrained, even more controlled and defined, by their bodies and their perceived beauty. I see that being as prevalent in the workplace as ever. So it&#039;s startling to me to see a younger woman write what you did; I&#039;m not arguing with your experience, just surprised.

But this I do have to be insistent about, because it is one of my pet peeves: &quot;anorectic&quot; is the correct adjectival form. You can call someone &quot;an anorexic&quot; but can&#039;t say &quot;she&#039;s anorexic.&quot; :)

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was really interesting, reading your opinions on this book &#8211; I haven&#8217;t read it since it first came out, and I should probably revisit it. I would strongly recommend Gloria Steinem&#8217;s 1980 essay &#8220;The Politics of Food.&#8221; The connection between food, power and powerlessness, status, and women&#8217;s bodies is brilliantly described.</p>
<p>Also interested in your Buffy analysis &#8211; from my perspective (46 y/o) I see very little difference, or I should say little progress, from the 1970s. Despite some positive images, I&#8217;d say that women are even more constrained, even more controlled and defined, by their bodies and their perceived beauty. I see that being as prevalent in the workplace as ever. So it&#8217;s startling to me to see a younger woman write what you did; I&#8217;m not arguing with your experience, just surprised.</p>
<p>But this I do have to be insistent about, because it is one of my pet peeves: &#8220;anorectic&#8221; is the correct adjectival form. You can call someone &#8220;an anorexic&#8221; but can&#8217;t say &#8220;she&#8217;s anorexic.&#8221; :)</p>
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		<title>By: v'ron</title>
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		<dc:creator>v'ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jan 2007 09:06:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jen&#039;s comment really hit home for me: its the precise reason I have two blogs, a weightloss blog and a &quot;regular&quot; blog. Why? Because once I lose the weight, where&#039;s my presence. Do I associate myself and my writing on that one topic, being fat? Will I have nothing else to write/kvetch about? No, that&#039;s why I have this other presence, this other life that doesn&#039;t depend on my fatness for its subject matter.

but I&#039;ll agree with the creepy-guy looks scenario. When I was in college, and not fat, I was a 20-year old blonde with big tits trying to make it in a male-dominated profession. I had no clue that it was cliche to hit on the 20-year old blonde intern all the time. I just hated it. Can&#039;t I freaking do my job without you leering at me? Put your tounge back in your mouth.

But I really don&#039;t want to believe that I got fat to stop this from happening. Because even though as a 20-year old, I only weighed ~130, I thought I was fat. I ALWAYS thought I was fat. From the day I grew those big tits I thought I was fat.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jen&#8217;s comment really hit home for me: its the precise reason I have two blogs, a weightloss blog and a &#8220;regular&#8221; blog. Why? Because once I lose the weight, where&#8217;s my presence. Do I associate myself and my writing on that one topic, being fat? Will I have nothing else to write/kvetch about? No, that&#8217;s why I have this other presence, this other life that doesn&#8217;t depend on my fatness for its subject matter.</p>
<p>but I&#8217;ll agree with the creepy-guy looks scenario. When I was in college, and not fat, I was a 20-year old blonde with big tits trying to make it in a male-dominated profession. I had no clue that it was cliche to hit on the 20-year old blonde intern all the time. I just hated it. Can&#8217;t I freaking do my job without you leering at me? Put your tounge back in your mouth.</p>
<p>But I really don&#8217;t want to believe that I got fat to stop this from happening. Because even though as a 20-year old, I only weighed ~130, I thought I was fat. I ALWAYS thought I was fat. From the day I grew those big tits I thought I was fat.</p>
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		<title>By: Jen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jan 2007 08:28:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There has to be something like this going on for me, because I felt very weird when I was at my goal weight.  Part of it, dumb as it sounds, was that without the fat to obsess about, my brain felt lost for something to take its place....  Nuts.  I am just plain nuts.  I am a Payday bar.

Also, there is something to the safety from creepy-guy looks.  I think that it has more to do with how you feel about yourself and how you&#039;re dressing, though, because Cynthia&#039;s right that fat women can be very sexual too.

I think that &lt;i&gt;Appetites: Why Women Want&lt;/i&gt; also has some interesting insights on weight, though the focus is more on anorexia.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There has to be something like this going on for me, because I felt very weird when I was at my goal weight.  Part of it, dumb as it sounds, was that without the fat to obsess about, my brain felt lost for something to take its place&#8230;.  Nuts.  I am just plain nuts.  I am a Payday bar.</p>
<p>Also, there is something to the safety from creepy-guy looks.  I think that it has more to do with how you feel about yourself and how you&#8217;re dressing, though, because Cynthia&#8217;s right that fat women can be very sexual too.</p>
<p>I think that <i>Appetites: Why Women Want</i> also has some interesting insights on weight, though the focus is more on anorexia.</p>
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		<title>By: Holly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Holly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jan 2007 01:50:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi there,

I just came across your blog and I am really blown away by how much courage you have to put yourself out there.  I really admire that.  Congratulations on all of your hard work!  I am currently in the process of trying to lose weight as well.  I have been pretty discouraged, but I just have to believe in myself because I know I can do it.  I hope you don&#039;t mind, but I am going to add your blog to my site so I can keep in touch and visit your blog as well.  Keep up the fantastic work!  You look great!

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<p>I just came across your blog and I am really blown away by how much courage you have to put yourself out there.  I really admire that.  Congratulations on all of your hard work!  I am currently in the process of trying to lose weight as well.  I have been pretty discouraged, but I just have to believe in myself because I know I can do it.  I hope you don&#8217;t mind, but I am going to add your blog to my site so I can keep in touch and visit your blog as well.  Keep up the fantastic work!  You look great!</p>
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		<title>By: bazu</title>
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		<dc:creator>bazu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jan 2007 23:45:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to agree that it&#039;s important to look at the environment that surrounds us. Fat and women&#039;s bodies in general is certainly a feminist issue. But even more importantly, to follow Eleonore&#039;s reasoning from above, we have to look at the food system (agrobusiness, corporations, restaurants, marketing, availability, pricing, etc.) in the Western world which has compromised our health (physical and psychological) so much in the last few decades. Women or men, overweight or not, we all have to stand up to corporations that stuff crap food down our throats!

Sorry, I didn&#039;t mean to sound like I&#039;m ranting here, but the issues you raise are close to my heart.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to agree that it&#8217;s important to look at the environment that surrounds us. Fat and women&#8217;s bodies in general is certainly a feminist issue. But even more importantly, to follow Eleonore&#8217;s reasoning from above, we have to look at the food system (agrobusiness, corporations, restaurants, marketing, availability, pricing, etc.) in the Western world which has compromised our health (physical and psychological) so much in the last few decades. Women or men, overweight or not, we all have to stand up to corporations that stuff crap food down our throats!</p>
<p>Sorry, I didn&#8217;t mean to sound like I&#8217;m ranting here, but the issues you raise are close to my heart.</p>
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		<title>By: Mymsie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mymsie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jan 2007 23:02:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;*added to wishlist*&lt;/i&gt; Sounds like an interesting read. I&#039;ve thought a lot about this issue and am convinced that indirectly, I over-ate/eat to protect myself. I was/am seeking emotional padding (protection, comfort, safety) but in our society, fat (physical padding) pushes people away, keeps them at a distance, affording the bearer a protection of sorts. Totally bizarre and incredible to think that could happen without me consciously deciding it, but true nonetheless...at least in my case.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>*added to wishlist*</i> Sounds like an interesting read. I&#8217;ve thought a lot about this issue and am convinced that indirectly, I over-ate/eat to protect myself. I was/am seeking emotional padding (protection, comfort, safety) but in our society, fat (physical padding) pushes people away, keeps them at a distance, affording the bearer a protection of sorts. Totally bizarre and incredible to think that could happen without me consciously deciding it, but true nonetheless&#8230;at least in my case.</p>
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		<title>By: C. Froggenhall</title>
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		<dc:creator>C. Froggenhall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jan 2007 20:43:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wrote about finding the reasons behind addictions -- in this case, food -- last month here (http://eh-notsomuch.livejournal.com/164690.html), prompted by an interesting article in the &lt;i&gt;NY TIMES&lt;/i&gt;. In sum, thinking about these things may be an interesting exercise (hurrr), but it may be more helpful to do your thinking on the treadmill!

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wrote about finding the reasons behind addictions &#8212; in this case, food &#8212; last month here (<a href="http://eh-notsomuch.livejournal.com/164690.html" rel="nofollow">http://eh-notsomuch.livejournal.com/164690.html</a>), prompted by an interesting article in the <i>NY TIMES</i>. In sum, thinking about these things may be an interesting exercise (hurrr), but it may be more helpful to do your thinking on the treadmill!</p>
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